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posted 01-02-2011 by Mr.Truther

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In recent years I have seen news stories that blow my mind. These range from a child being arrested for having a toy soldier holding a gun at school to a woman being brutally beaten and fined for having a brown lawn (yes a brown lawn!). Is this a free country? And the best excuse that the gov't overlords can come up with is.... wait..... "we do it for your security!" America is not based on security, it is based upon freedoms that are outlined in the Constitution, which according to a Washington Post staffer....Ezra Klein, has "no binding power." But I thought that the Supreme Court was just for that purpose. I thought that they were trusted with the power to check for constitutionality in laws. Well, I guess not.....but I am ranting again..... so waht do you think. Comments are more than welcome!

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I think when we look at the big picture it's easy to see the answer, the question then becomes what are we willing to sacrifice in order to protect our freedom? When it comes to guns in schools I will always believe that it is better to err on the side of caution, no matter how ridiculous the outcome may seem. As for the brown lawn lady...who beat her up? A gang of hungry boll weevils?

Posted By Johnny4, 01-03-2011 (2 years and 4 months)

the kid in school did not have a gun, the toy soldier had a gun in his hand.....all plastic.....like one of the little green army men.....and as for the old lady, she was beaten by the police

Posted By Mr.Truther, 01-03-2011 (2 years and 4 months)

The police...really? Where did this happen? Did she pull a weapon on them or something? Or was it just a little green army guy? While we're on the subject, I still think that when it comes to guns and schools that every precaution needs to be taken. Was the toy discovered before or after the arrest? If it was before, then yes--it does seem extreme.

Posted By Johnny4, 01-03-2011 (2 years and 4 months)

ok for the brown lawn lady....follow this link: http://www.thisgardenisillegal.com/2007/09/heres-one-for-the-stupid-file-woman-arrested-for-letting-her-lawn-get-brown.html and for the kid with the soldier....and sorry he was not arrested....just kicked outta school for it, check this out: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8585070 and if you want to see more outrageous stuff read this article: http://www.infowars.com/almost-everything-is-a-crime-in-america-now-14-of-the-most-ridiculous-things-that-americans-are-being-arrested-for/

Posted By Mr.Truther, 01-04-2011 (2 years and 4 months)

Interesting stuff, thanks for the links. From what I read, the kid wasn't kicked out, just not allowed to wear the hat. This may seem harsh to some but dress codes are nothing new. Sounds like the lawn lady was arrested for refusing to give the officer her name, and fell to the ground when he tried to cuff her. However ridiculous the initial "charges" were, she played a part in the outcome. How do we know she didn't throw herself on the ground? I think if there was police brutality, charges would've been brought aginst the cop...they weren't.

Posted By Johnny4, 01-05-2011 (2 years and 4 months)

unfortunately, the police are not held to any standards of conduct anymore...IMHO they are a bunch of steroided out goons, thugs if you will. they wear their all black gear and hit the streets like imperial stormtroopers demanding that you comply or they beat you. Did you read the one about the granny not picking up the pet poop and being arrested? That kind of stuff sickens me to no end! I'm sorry, but once enough Americans wake up to the fact that we are living in a totalitarian police state, we can take the power from those that think that they have it. It is said in the Declaration of Independence that it is our duty to take out a tyrannical government and install one that is once again by, for, and of the people!

Posted By Mr.Truther, 01-05-2011 (2 years and 4 months)

and for proof of the steroids look here: http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/26/illegal-steroid-use-among-police-officers-a-big-problem/

Posted By Mr.Truther, 01-05-2011 (2 years and 4 months)

Wow...tell us how you really feel. While I do agree that arresting old ladies is not the best use of their time and our tax dollars, I believe what you are describing is the exception--not the rule.

Posted By Johnny4, 01-05-2011 (2 years and 4 months)

It probably is not the rule, but it happens,. Now, that makes me angry to no end. And these incidents happen all over the country. When you add in other factors, such as the TSA, chemtrails, weather modification, threat fusion centers, FEMA camps, and other flagrant violations of Constitutional rights, that tells me that we are NOT living in a free country. For further proof of what I have said, send me an e-mail and I will be more than happy to provide proof of my claims. speedotorpedo1@gmail.com

Posted By Mr.Truther, 01-07-2011 (2 years and 4 months)

I think there are entirely too many examples of Constitutional violations (and downright stupidity) to name. I also believe that just about everything in this country can be bought--and yes, we (Americans) have been sold down the river more than once. I get it, and I think it makes a lot of people angry. The thing that makes us different is this; We have the right and the freedom, to do something about it, to change it. Yes, it would be nice if "freedom" were perfect, but it's not. I think it's more of a work in progress. If we weren't free, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Posted By Johnny4, 01-07-2011 (2 years and 4 months)

Pretty soon we will not be able to talk about this stuff. The net neutrality bill passed and is a law now......

Posted By Mr.Truther, 01-07-2011 (2 years and 4 months)

Like I said...sold up the river. Maybe I missed something, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with content.

Posted By Johnny4, 01-07-2011 (2 years and 4 months)

OK Mr. Truther, I may regret this but...now that I've started paying more attention to the shit here in the US, instead of where they want us to look, I have to admit it...you may not be wrong.

Guess I've just spent so long comparing US to all the shitty countries, that I (like everyone else) forgot what ours was really supposed to be like. Thanks for the wake up call.
One question, are we the Jedis or did I just cross over to the dark side?

Posted By Johnny4, 04-01-2011 (2 years and 1 months)

We are a far ways off of being Jedi-like in any way! We are slipping more and more into the dark side of the "force"!

Posted By Mr.Truther, 04-02-2011 (2 years and 1 months)

We are the Jedis....for the most part.....the reason I say that we are slipping to the dark side is because there are some of us that listen to the rhetoric of Glenn Beck. He is not a real journalist....he is in the same kind of journalism that most if not all of the major networks practice....sensationalism.....if you want to really see some shocking stuff...check out a video called Endgame on google video!

Posted By Mr.Truther, 04-02-2011 (2 years and 1 months)